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Scintelle
02-09-2005, 04:28 PM
Ok so I'm leaving for Breckenridge tomorrow morning for a ski trip, and I've got the flu something fierce. I'm doing the whole lots of fluids and rest thing, but I'm desperate and will try any potential miracle-cure that anyone suggests... kthx.
If it's a cold, fluids and rest.
If it's the flu, go to the doctor. No use getting everyone on the trip sick.
Aradorn
02-09-2005, 04:42 PM
i got some ol country remedies but you would probably rather just be sick =P
Scintelle
02-09-2005, 04:50 PM
Sounds kinky.
Siridean
02-09-2005, 06:40 PM
Everyone's been raving about the new herbal cold medication/prevention called Airborne:
http://www.airbornehealth.com/
Ternach
02-09-2005, 07:20 PM
I suggest Fire - Fire cures all evil things!
airborne is the shit. take some echenacea and high dosages of Vitamin C (1000 milis)
Scintelle
02-09-2005, 07:59 PM
Yeah I'm taking echinacea. I called my mom last night and asked her wtf I should do... she was like, "YOU GOTTA GET SOME EUTHENASIA." I'm like, "yeah I don't think that means what you think it means." Or does it?
Cinnabar
02-09-2005, 09:20 PM
start taking 1000mg of vitamin C every 3 hrs
take 600mg L-Glutamine twice daily
olive leaf extract and grape seed extract would be some great additions also
get outside for some sunlight and fresh air
Siridean
02-09-2005, 11:23 PM
airborne is the shit. take some echenacea and high dosages of Vitamin C (1000 milis)
:hm:
From the Airborne website:
AIRBORNE Original: ingredients.
Supplement Facts: Serv size 1 tablet. Servings, 10. Amount per serving: Calories 4, Total Fat 0g, Sodium 230mg (10% DV*), Total Carb 0g, Sugars 0g, Protein 0g. Vitamin A (100% Acetate) 5,000 I.U. (100% DV*), Vitamin C 1,000mg (1,633% DV*), Vitamin E 30 I.U. (100% DV*), Magnesium (Sulfate) 40mg (10% DV*), Zinc (Sulfate) 8mg (55% DV*), Selenium (Sodium Selinite) 15mcg (21% DV*), Manganese (Gluconate) 3mg (86% DV*), Potassium (Bicarbonate) 75mg (2.5% DV*), Organic Herbal Extracts (Lonicera, Forsythia, Schizonepeta, Ginger, Chinese Vitex, Isatis Root, Echinacea) 350mg (DV**), Amino Acids (Glutamine, Lysine) 50mg (DV**).
Pwned :p:
Aradorn
02-09-2005, 11:40 PM
wow with that much Vitamin C if you took that on a regular basis you would have a pretty good immune system =)
no you wouldnt. everything has tolerance levels.
Ablate
02-10-2005, 01:54 AM
Vitamin C is water soluble, any excess that your system cannot use is flushed in the urine quite rapidly. I've also found it doesn't help you get over a cold or flu, it just helps prevent you from getting it.
The flu is a virus, seeing his doctor will do about nothing, except maybe add to the antibiotic resistant bacteria epidemic that is growing daily, if the doc prescribes them.
When I'm sick, with the flu or a badass cold, and I simply cannot miss the day, I take that Tylenol Cold and Flu daytime. You'll still be sick, but you'll have an artificial energy and feel no pain from the kick ass shit they got in that stuff.
Scintelle
02-10-2005, 02:01 AM
It's lookin' like that might be my only option, Ablate.
Thanks all. Kick someone's ass while I'm gone. Doesn't matter who.
Roxie
02-10-2005, 07:36 AM
THERA FLU. I'll never forget one time when my mom brought me some of that stuff at work, and I felt 100% better 30 minutes later.
Cinnabar
02-10-2005, 08:11 AM
Vitamin C is water soluble, any excess that your system cannot use is flushed in the urine quite rapidly. I've also found it doesn't help you get over a cold or flu, it just helps prevent you from getting it.
The flu is a virus, seeing his doctor will do about nothing, except maybe add to the antibiotic resistant bacteria epidemic that is growing daily, if the doc prescribes them.
When I'm sick, with the flu or a badass cold, and I simply cannot miss the day, I take that Tylenol Cold and Flu daytime. You'll still be sick, but you'll have an artificial energy and feel no pain from the kick ass shit they got in that stuff.
Unless Scin has had a doctor state that it is the flu, I doubt he is qualified to determine that himself. Symptoms do not always equate to the illness.
As far as your personal experience -- it's just that, personal experience. You are actually outside of the normal population if you find that large doses of vitamin C does not aide in the relief of symptoms and the recovery process.
Not only is vitamin C a symptom reliever and an aide to the immune system but it is also an immensely important recovery agent. It is the reason people who bodybuild take large doses -- repair.
In case you want a source:
1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1999 Oct;22(8):530-3.
The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections.
Gorton HC, Jarvis K.
BACKGROUND: An ever increasing demand to evaluate the effect of dietary supplements on specific health conditions by use of a "significant scientific" standard has prompted the publication of this study. OBJECTIVE: To study the effect of megadose Vitamin C in preventing and relieving cold and flu symptoms in a test group compared with a control group. DESIGN: Prospective, controlled study of students in a technical training facility. SUBJECTS: A total of 463 students ranging in age from 18 to 32 years made up the control group. A total of 252 students ranging in age from 18 to 30 years made up the experimental or test group. METHOD: Investigators tracked the number of reports of cold and flu symptoms among the 1991 test population of the facility compared with the reports of like symptoms among the 1990 control population. Those in the control population reporting symptoms were treated with pain relievers and decongestants, whereas those in the test population reporting symptoms were treated with hourly doses of 1000 mg of Vitamin C for the first 6 hours and then 3 times daily thereafter. Those not reporting symptoms in the test group were also administered 1000-mg doses 3 times daily. RESULTS: Overall, reported flu and cold symptoms in the test group decreased 85% compared with the control group after the administration of megadose Vitamin C. CONCLUSION: Vitamin C in megadoses administered before or after the appearance of cold and flu symptoms relieved and prevented the symptoms in the test population compared with the control group.
Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Controlled Clinical Trial
PMID: 10543583 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Cinnabar
02-10-2005, 08:12 AM
wow with that much Vitamin C if you took that on a regular basis you would have a pretty good immune system =)
Taking that amount on a regular basis isn't really needed. 2000-3000mg/daily is plenty for general health.
Roxie
02-10-2005, 08:50 AM
In fact, Vitamin C is SO important, that it has been suggested the old adage "an apple a day keeps the doctor away," be ammended to "an orange a day keeps the doctor away."
Roxie
02-10-2005, 08:53 AM
Actually, I just made that up. LAWL.
Cinnabar
02-10-2005, 08:55 AM
I figured you did. So what can we take to keep a Roxie away?
Roxie
02-10-2005, 08:56 AM
Tuna.
Cinnabar
02-10-2005, 09:05 AM
Luckily I have a ton!
I second Siridean on the Airborne. One girl that I work with swears by it, she hasn't been sick at all the whole winter. Plus Angelina Jolie takes it before traveling and so you should too.
Cinnabar
02-10-2005, 08:37 PM
I haven't been sick all winter either and I don't use your nonsense flu/cold drugs!
Armind
02-10-2005, 10:17 PM
whiskey. throw a few back and you'll forget that you have a cold. hell, you'll probably forget its cold outside too.
Jimborg
02-10-2005, 10:40 PM
"Liquour. The cause of, and soloution to, all of life's problems"
-Homer Simpson
"Beer is proof the God wants us to be happy"
-Benjamin Franklin
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