Just Yell Fire

[Elora]

I don't often pass along this sort of thing, but I was impressed with it. The statistics of young girls being raped and/or abducted are terrifying. This video, which is free, teaches girls tactics to get away. Not to pick a fight or try and take down a would-be assailant, but to gain those precious few seconds to escape.



http://www.justyellfire.com/index.php

[Lozzt One]

I think every woman should take self defense lessons. Having basic knowledge of self defense can prevent things like rape/robbery/purse snatching.

[Dong]

And regardless of what he says, ladies, it really is rape. Not surprise sex.

[Shokar]

I think every woman should take self defense lessons. Having basic knowledge of self defense can prevent things like rape/robbery/purse snatching.

Might help ward off the advances of the Shibber as well.

[Shib]

:o

[Drekor]

I think every woman should take self defense lessons. Having basic knowledge of self defense can prevent things like rape/robbery/purse snatching.

I disagree, it takes more than "basic knowledge" to be able to fend off someone significantly stronger than you are. I'd suspect you'd need to regularly practice martial arts in some form, not just go to a 2 hour seminar one day and expect to be fine.

You should probably understand better than anyone Lozzt but if you went to a dojo with people of lower belts... lets just take yellow as an example, I've helped out with classes like that and I can simply overpower these people with raw strength and I'm not that strong because I can simply surprise them and they don't know what to do. One of the seminars I was helping with there was a person whose stance was off a fair bit and I walked up gave a good nudge to the forehead and she went straight down to the ground... and these are people that have been practicing for a month.

[Cinnabar]

Concealed handgun license and firearms training.

[Shib]

what happened to the old pepper spray/air horn aproach?

[Elora]

I disagree, it takes more than "basic knowledge" to be able to fend off someone significantly stronger than you are. I'd suspect you'd need to regularly practice martial arts in some form, not just go to a 2 hour seminar one day and expect to be fine.


Depends on what you want to achieve. You don't need to practice martial arts to be able to get away. If you want to kick someone's ass, that's another story. But a 12 yr old girl can distract a full grown man long enough to get away. That's what the video is all about. Getting away to find help. A lot of times, they won't give chase. Its too dangerous. A predator is looking for the easy target. Someone who fights back by jabbing them in the eye, busting their eardrum or flat out punching them in the groin is not easy.

Far too many women think they can't defend themselves because they don't spend an hour a day in the gym or go to martial arts classes three times a week. That's simply not true.

Having said that... I want to take martial arts lessons. Cuz if someone comes at me, I don't want to just get away. I want to make him regret it. For a good long time. :smile_ok:

[Silver]

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[Elora]

In the hands of a 12 yr old?

This isn't about grown women, though the tips are handy for them, too. Its aimed at the kids who get grabbed or hurt in hideously large numbers.

[Shib]

i don't think yer $x ammendment which is always taken out of context to give an idiot a gun has an age restriction....

[Whisper]

My daughter has been in martial arts since she was 6. She's 16 now, and very accomplished.....in the sense that she knows the moves and they are fairly reflexive for her at this point.

And yet, I could overpower her in a heartbeat. She's only been in a few actual fights, and tournaments, even ones that allow good contact, are no substitute for experience. That is what the training is for though, to provide the muscle memory of what to do, when. The knowledge and even the skill aren't always enough to pummel any would be attacker, but it can be enough to distract and escape.

In all the unarmed CQB courses I've been involved with, the distinction between taking someone down and disabling them enough to escape and evade is critical and the most important decision delta in any engagement. It has to be decided in a walking state well before the shit hits the fan, so that when it does, the reaction is as fast as training and conditioning allow.

My mandate to my daughter? Anyone ever touches her without her permission in an aggressive fashion, fingers to eyes and throat, elbow to nose, instep to knee, and get the fuck out of dodge while screaming her head off. If she's wrong and some creepy asshat just wanted to ask for directions in a physically abrasive fashion, I'll bail her out.

Constant situational awareness of her surroundings and the people in it, being smart about who she hangs with, when and under what circumstances, those are the things that will keep her safe. Her ability to maybe kick the shit out of someone will always be a worse case scenario when everything else has absolutely failed.

-W

[Whisper]

i don't think yer $x ammendment which is always taken out of context to give an idiot a gun has an age restriction....
Depends. Kaitlynn has to wait 2 more years before I can legally transfer "her" guns to her possession. (.380, .40 and a 9) Then she has access to them whenever she wants. Seeing as she'll most likely be in a dorm or house for school, I am betting they'll stay in my gun safe for another 3-4 years or so, and only come out when she is home and wants to hit the range.

She grew up around firearms, knows and respects them, but also knows they are no easy button for avoiding or resolving confrontations. Just another tool, and one where access when you need it is problematic depending on where you live and the laws governing CC.

-W

[Elad]

what? does a guy get tricked by ''fire''? Maybe I'm not catching it, does that buy time? I always thought no meant yes.

[Elora]

Its less about him reacting and more about other people's responses. The general public doesn't get involved in someone else's problems. "Help" and "rape" get far less response than "Fire!" A fire affects anyone in the area. It also draws people who just want to see. If people show up, there are witnesses. That's when the attacker bolts.

Just a few years ago, I heard someone screaming down the block. It sounded like she was being attacked. I stood up. My husband told me to sit down and leave it alone. It wasn't my business. I tossed a few choice words his way and walked out the door. Someone had already called for help and the cops were on the way. The screaming woman had been barely holding off a furious boyfriend who had his hands around her neck and was trying to shove her off a balcony.

[Shokar]

what? does a guy get tricked by ''fire''? Maybe I'm not catching it, does that buy time? .


I prefer the "Look !! Elvis !!" technique.

[Drekor]

And yet, I could overpower her in a heartbeat. She's only been in a few actual fights, and tournaments, even ones that allow good contact, are no substitute for experience. That is what the training is for though, to provide the muscle memory of what to do, when. The knowledge and even the skill aren't always enough to pummel any would be attacker, but it can be enough to distract and escape.
Well as a father I'm not sure you'd want to be if you can get her in some full contact tournaments she'll learn how to fight "for real" quite quickly. I'm not a big person by any stretch of the mind and I've had 2 people attempt to mug me both of which probably had a good 75lbs on me one of which had a knife and both were on the ground and in need of a hospital in less than 15 seconds. Granted I'm a bit on the crazy side any they only wanted my wallet but really all you need to do is get 1 or 2 key hits in and they become completely incapable of actually fighting, but you need to be able to do them quickly and under pressure... not easy if you don't practice doing it constantly.

[Ablate]

You never know how well trained (or armed) your attacker might be. Trying to GTFO is probably the safest bet most of the time, along with trying to avoid potentially dangerous situations.

[Miach]

Well as a father I'm not sure you'd want to be if you can get her in some full contact tournaments she'll learn how to fight "for real" quite quickly. I'm not a big person by any stretch of the mind and I've had 2 people attempt to mug me both of which probably had a good 75lbs on me one of which had a knife and both were on the ground and in need of a hospital in less than 15 seconds. Granted I'm a bit on the crazy side any they only wanted my wallet but really all you need to do is get 1 or 2 key hits in and they become completely incapable of actually fighting, but you need to be able to do them quickly and under pressure... not easy if you don't practice doing it constantly.


Makes me wonder why you are healing in our 5man. Compensate much?;)

[Drekor]

Makes me wonder why you are healing in our 5man. Compensate much?
Compensating for what? Me hospitalizing people irl? :)

I'm pretty sure if I was a police officer I'd get charge repeatedly with using excessive force... bastards deserve it though ^_^