College Football....

[Saleen]

WTF season and rankings...


This fucking season doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense.

[Konrad]

This college football season makes me sad in the pants...

[Soushia]

Living in Tampa...the #2 ranking for USF is making for interesting football.

[Timestretch]

Pray for a playoff system.

[Saleen]

List of Undefeated Teams:

Ohio State
South Florida
Boston College
Kansas
Hawaii


I mean honestly... wtf

with the exception of Ohio State, who has not played anyone wirth a shit yet, they are all in shit conferences that dont play any real big teams (from the Big 10, SEC, Pac-3)

[Saleen]

well mabye Boston College too... but the ACC isnt what it used to be.

[Konrad]

Agreed, I still think Florida is the best team in the country with LSU being a very close second, and I think I can say that honestly even though I'm incredibly biased.

[Saleen]

Agreed, I still think Florida is the best team in the country with LSU being a very close second, and I think I can say that honestly even though I'm incredibly biased.



i wouldnt say they are the BEST... they are up there... i think LSU looks the best



and http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/kekekegay.gif @ the Cal game

[Saleen]

sorry... cant edit... but id say LSU is #1 then Florida

[Soushia]

Agreed, I still think Florida is the best team in the country with LSU being a very close second, and I think I can say that honestly even though I'm incredibly biased.

I am a gator my man...but the fact is they are a 2 loss team.

They might not even go to the SEC championship.

Heck, they will be lucky to go to the Outback Steakhouse Gator Bowl.


p.s. Hawaii rules!

[Saleen]

p.s. Hawaii rules!



Colt Brennan is a damn good QB.... but the WAC http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/hsugh.gif

[Konrad]

LSU is damned good, but in the Florida-LSU game, it is undeniable that Florida looked like the better team, and when they play each other again in the SEC Championship game I have no doubt Florida will beat LSU. I don't think there is a team in the country that could beat either of those teams (obviously this year shows any team can beat any other team, but you know what I mean), Pac-10 teams have shown once again that they are constantly overrated and every other undefeated team is playing soft schedules. Unfortunately, neither LSU or Florida will play in the National Championship game, as we will be forced to crown the juggernaughts from either Boston College or South Florida *yawn*.

[Soushia]

LSU is damned good, but in the Florida-LSU game, it is undeniable that Florida looked like the better team,

Untill they choked!

I don't think there is a team in the country that could beat either of those teams

*cough*

Auburn

*cough*

[Konrad]

I don't think Florida choked...Tebow's pass that glanced off the helmet and up into the air was the difference in that game, along with with Les Mile's 5 fourth down conversions. Florida looked like the better team, and as the defense matures I believe they will be.

Yeah, Auburn beat Florida, but I would put my money on Florida 9 times out of 10. They were definitely caught looking ahead to LSU. We'll see what they do with Kentucky this Saturday.

[Soushia]

Didn't Auburn beat us last year too?

UF has a really good team...but they lost too many defensive starters to be a great team.

[Konrad]

Have you seen the defense play though? They have all sorts of talent, and they played great against LSU considering their youth.

[Soushia]

Have you seen the defense play though? They have all sorts of talent, and they played great against LSU considering their youth.

Konrad..I am HUGE gator fan. The year I moved to Gainesville was Spurrier's first year. I got to watch them go from a team on NCAA suspension to national champions with QB's like Terry Dean and Danny Wuerful. But at the end of the day, that team doesn't go #1 without Kearse and company droppin the hammer.

They have a lot of very good players on both sides of the ball, but those very good players need more game experience before they become a GREAT TEAM!

Next year they will contend for a national championship. This year, they are just a very good top 20 team. And there is nothing wrong with that.

[Virt]

I don't know if its possible to make predictions in the SEC that are worth a damn. There are still 8 teams with a legit chance of going to the SEC champ. game, and that number is not likely to go down after next weekend.

[Siridean]

List of Undefeated Teams:

Ohio State
South Florida
Boston College
Kansas
Hawaii


I mean honestly... wtf

with the exception of Ohio State, who has not played anyone wirth a shit yet, they are all in shit conferences that dont play any real big teams (from the Big 10, SEC, Pac-3)

Arizona State is undefeated also and ranked 8th. :D They're leading the Pac-10 atm, but still have to play Cal & USC.

[Relapse]

Wow, lots of hate. Don't be mad cause THE Ohio State University is gonna be crowned champ.

[Thaelcron]

HOW BOUT THEM BUCKEYES!!!!!

[Kronc]

Boston College is coming to the meat of their schedule They will not stay undefeated and will probally not even be ranked at years end. They still have Virgina Tech, Maryland, FSU, Clemson, and Miami. Everyone of those teams will give BC a game.

[Jaus]

I made a bet at the beginning of the season prediction no team would go undefeated this year. At this rate im gonna be 100 bucks richer sooner than later. And as a Cal fan they still have Arizona St and USC in Berkley so that will be the test for them to see if there top 10

[Timestretch]

I'm going to let you in on something that I've discovered after living here in Vegas. It's one of the best kept secrets you'll find about College football. The only Rankings, or Polls that matter are those disclosed by the Las Vegas Sports Consultants (LVSC). The Harris Poll, USA Today, Computer Rankings, and BCS Polls are WORTHLESS. They are so flawed and biased that all they are good for is lining the floor of a birdcage. LVSC sets the line for all Vegas gambling...and therefore the world basically.

USF as #2??? Kentucky #7???

In a neutral playing field, you're telling me USF is better than LSU, or USC? The BCS is out of their mind. Based on the LVSC power rankings, LSU would be a laying 10.5 points if this game were to ever happen. USC, with a power ranking of 112.1 would be favored by 9.

I dont even look at rankings anymore...and I turn the station when ignorant radio hosts use it to support a point they've made.

LVSC NCAAFB Power Rankings
Rank Team Rating Previous Rank
1 LSU 113.5 2
2 Southern Cal 112.1 1
3 Oklahoma 111.5 3
4 Ohio State 110.3 4
5 West Virginia 108.8 5
6 Florida 107.5 6
7 California 106.8 7
8 Oregon 105.1 8
9 Missouri 104.4 16
10 Boston College 104.1 14
11 South Carolina 103.9 9
12 Arizona State 103.6 10
13 Texas 103.3 13
14 South Florida 103.0 12
15 Florida State 102.5 17
15 Virginia Tech 102.5 24
17 Hawaii 102.2 20
18 Michigan 102.1 30
19 Penn State 102.0 27
19 Kansas 102.0 29
21 Auburn 101.7 NR
21 Arkansas 101.7 NR
23 Georgia 101.4 15
23 Wisconsin 101.4 10
25 Brigham Young 101.0 27
25 Cincinnati 101.0 NR
27 Kentucky 100.8 19
28 Illinois 100.7 NR
29 Texas Tech 100.0 NR
30 Purdue 99.6 23

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story.cfm/story/621548

[Timestretch]

I made a bet at the beginning of the season prediction no team would go undefeated this year. At this rate im gonna be 100 bucks richer sooner than later. And as a Cal fan they still have Arizona St and USC in Berkley so that will be the test for them to see if there top 10

You're going to lose that bet. Hawaii will go undefeated.

[Konrad]

I think Hawaii will get rocked by Boise State.

[Jaus]

The only team that may do it in my opinion will be Ohio St. However im hoping Michigan rapes them.

[Timestretch]

I think Hawaii will get rocked by Boise State.

They definitely could...but the games at home. Hawaii plays much better at home and sometimes visiting teams get distracted by the scenery.

[Vaildez]

I'm going to let you in on something that I've discovered after living here in Vegas. It's one of the best kept secrets you'll find about College football. The only Rankings, or Polls that matter are those disclosed by the Las Vegas Sports Consultants (LVSC). The Harris Poll, USA Today, Computer Rankings, and BCS Polls are WORTHLESS. They are so flawed and biased that all they are good for is lining the floor of a birdcage. LVSC sets the line for all Vegas gambling...and therefore the world basically.

USF as #2??? Kentucky #7???

In a neutral playing field, you're telling me USF is better than LSU, or USC? The BCS is out of their mind. Based on the LVSC power rankings, LSU would be a laying 10.5 points if this game were to ever happen. USC, with a power ranking of 112.1 would be favored by 9.

I dont even look at rankings anymore...and I turn the station when ignorant radio hosts use it to support a point they've made.

LVSC NCAAFB Power Rankings
Rank Team Rating Previous Rank
1 LSU 113.5 2
2 Southern Cal 112.1 1
3 Oklahoma 111.5 3
4 Ohio State 110.3 4
5 West Virginia 108.8 5
6 Florida 107.5 6
7 California 106.8 7
8 Oregon 105.1 8
9 Missouri 104.4 16
10 Boston College 104.1 14
11 South Carolina 103.9 9
12 Arizona State 103.6 10
13 Texas 103.3 13
14 South Florida 103.0 12
15 Florida State 102.5 17
15 Virginia Tech 102.5 24
17 Hawaii 102.2 20
18 Michigan 102.1 30
19 Penn State 102.0 27
19 Kansas 102.0 29
21 Auburn 101.7 NR
21 Arkansas 101.7 NR
23 Georgia 101.4 15
23 Wisconsin 101.4 10
25 Brigham Young 101.0 27
25 Cincinnati 101.0 NR
27 Kentucky 100.8 19
28 Illinois 100.7 NR
29 Texas Tech 100.0 NR
30 Purdue 99.6 23

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story.cfm/story/621548

/signed

[Virt]

Yeah... so Vandy beat up on the ol' ball coach. That's some funny shit.

[Siridean]

UCLA beat CAL

[Elad]

I think this year is fun!

[Saleen]

holy fuck @ the last 5 sec of the LSU game.... unfuckingbelievable TD catch.



I gotta say, Les miles really grew a pair in the offseason. I guess all of the offseason nutsucking of his team really pumped him up.

[Saleen]

LOLBURN

[Elad]

Feel bad for Auburn :(

[Virt]

That was a great game... Les Miles is insane.

[Silver]

Rutgers.

That is all.

[Saleen]

Rutgers.

That is all.



well i said it before... USF = overrated :smile_ok:

[Thaelcron]

take that white out and shove it up your ass penn state.

[Siridean]

ASU beat CAL 31 to 20! :D


They didn't let CAL score at all in the second half of the game. ASU has outscored their opponents 156 to 29 in the second half this year. They're now 8-0 for the season.

[Jaus]

Even though Cal lost ASU wont get a very high bowl game even if they go undefeated. because of the college ranking system a bigger power house team probably from the SEC will move extremely high in the final poll of the season.

[Cydus]

LSU is overrated, ohio state will dominate this year.

[Kigek]

LSU is overrated, ohio state will dominate this year.

Ohio State, Son

[Konrad]

LSU is overrated, ohio state will dominate this year.

Switch out LSU with Florida, and you'll hear what all the nutheads were screaming before the BCS National Championship last year...and we all know how that turned out.

CHOMPED!

http://www.typophile.com/files/gatorbait_5604.jpg

[Thaelcron]

well you'd play like shit too if you spent 65 days off accepting any and all awards the entire time. flying all over the country and shit should wait til after the bowl games.

[Konrad]

Excuses amount to just a smudge more than shit when you get absolutely steamrolled on the field.

[Timestretch]

WAR Pac 10 Football.

[Elad]

Jaus, as long as ASU keeps winning they'll be fine when the final BCS comes out. They're making big strides. I don't think they'll get past Oregon though

[Timestretch]

Jaus, as long as ASU keeps winning they'll be fine when the final BCS comes out. They're making big strides. I don't think they'll get past Oregon though

Oregon is only a 7 point favorite. I would bet the house on Dixon.

[Silver]

The Dolphins should move to the ACC.

The would pwn it.

[Aradorn]

how bout them dawgs

[Aradorn]

the problem with the BCS is that its punishes teams who are not undefeated, like the SEC. It is almost impossible to go undefeated in the SEC and if you do its probably because the other teams are in a rebuild year.

Take any team outside of the SEC and let them play 1 season again an SEC east or west team and see what happens.

[Elad]

blah blah blah. You're not punished that bad. Florida hardly dips after losing, South Carolina manages to stay ranked all the time..give me a break.

[Aradorn]

nm....

[Elad]

The SEC just has an incredibly cocky arrogance. You play tough teams most weeks during the season, aside from a couple of SEC teams not as good. Then you have to play a championship game, yes. But how good is the SEC? You play one of the worst OOC schedules out of anyone - I understand you have to pad your wins going into the SEC season...but how good are you? You beat each other up. You have your years where tons of teams are unstoppable, but lets see what happens in the bowl games.

If you're interested in college football, rivals.com is a great place for news and forums. When I'm bored I sit in on the forums and read whats going on..SEC posters completely look down on the Big Ten, Big East, Big 12, all that. Their line is always the same one you just used. I'll be happy to eat my words if the SEC is 7-0 or something impressive in bowls :P

[Konrad]

Having grown up watching Big Ten football in the midwest, living out West watching Pac-10 football, and living in the south and watching SEC football, there is absolutely no comparison: SEC football is king. There is no faster or harder hitting football to be had and the stadium atmosphere is better than most Big Ten venues. The only reason the SEC doesn't put out the national champions every year is because they beat up on each other in conference play. That doesn't just mean that they beat each other, but that they injure their best players throughout the year. Compare that with the Pac-10 where the hitting hurts as much as a punch to the face from Inf; they simply don't have injuries at all.

Last year's National Championship game was a perfect example of this. The Ohio State machine got pummeled by an overlooked Gator team, because no other conference out there is as fast or plays as physical as the SEC.

[Elad]

I don't think anyone in the Big Ten even likes Ohio State. Was disappointed in Michigan..we'll see how it goes though this year in the bowls. The Pac-10 (outside of USC until recently) suffered from the opposite problem cause of all the east coast media

[Saleen]

SEC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *


hands down. I am a michigan fan so i go for the big-10... but NO other conference comes close.

The SEC puts out the most NFL Talent Bar none.


that and the 97-2001 Miami Hurricanes, lol

[Infuriare]

...where the hitting hurts as much as a punch to the face from Inf; they simply don't have injuries at all.


At least my wrist stays firm while hitting, mr. limp wrist :crushT:

It's a self fulfilling cycle. If you play good times, you'll get better yourself. If any of the better ranked teams went into the SEC conference, I'd guarantee that within a year or two they'd be top contenders in that conference as well.

Personally, I still think college football should have a "march madness" to put all this bullshit aside. More good teams would play more good teams and you'd get to see some wicked battles.

[Saleen]

Personally, I still think college football should have a "march madness" to put all this bullshit aside. More good teams would play more good teams and you'd get to see some wicked battles.


In for College Football "March Madness"

[Aradorn]

could not have said it better myself Konrad =)

Georgia has auburn, kentucky, and ga tech left so will be fun to see what happens

[Konrad]

At least my wrist stays firm while hitting, mr. limp wrist :crushT:


I have nothing funny to say here, so I'm just going to let it go.

[Soushia]

SEC is king gang..it is not even close.

We can discuss the comparrison between the top teams in the SEC versus other division leaders...but the proof in the pudding is how the "mid tier" teams stack up.

Unlike other divisions...the drop-off between the 1st theam and the 6th team is minimal. In most other divisions, once you get past the top 3 or 4 teams, you are playing scrubs.

I'll take a team like Alabama, Arkansas, or Kentucky over other leagues "fodder teams" any day of the week.

Speed kills...thats why the SEC annihilates other divisions.

[Silver]

I take it back...

The Dolphins will be competitive in the SEC.

[Saleen]

the LoLphins!




sadly i still think they would get raped against LSU

[Infuriare]

How awesome would it be if the winner of the college conferences played the loser of the NFL and if the NFL team lost, they'd be disbanded. Now THAT would be some good football.

[Konrad]

I have nothing funny to say here, so I'm just going to let it go.

WTF...when did you get editing powers Noodle Arms?

[Silver]

The chance of an NFL team losing to a NCAA team is 0.00%

Even the best college team only has a couple of players that will ever see an NFL roster.

[Infuriare]

The chance of an NFL team losing to a NCAA team is 0.00%

Even the best college team only has a couple of players that will ever see an NFL roster.

Very true, but it'd still be fun to see. Might light a fire under the NFL teams ass if their careers were on the line.

[Elad]

Do you guys feel the same way about SEC basketball? The Floridas and the Kentuckys, etc

[Konrad]

Basketball is much more balanced among the conferences.

[Soushia]

Basketball is much more balanced among the conferences.


A lot more parity since each school only gives out 12 scholarships as opposed to 55. Plus, it is a lot tougher to keep a BB team together with all the early draft departure.

[Konrad]

The problem is that college basketball is only exciting for one month out of the year.

[Elad]

Oddest thing I ever heard was that Florida wasn't selling out their games for basketball even after all the success. Guess football is king.. I don't know, I think basketball has its moments, but overall I really enjoy the season. Guess it just depends where you're from. Basketball is king in Indiana with the Odens and Conleys and etc, but as far as football goes..they churn out a little % compared to Ohio. OSU hardly has to look outside of their own state if they didn't want to.

Back to football, changing the question a little...What do you think of Hawaii? What BCS bowl match ups do you think would be the best?

[Konrad]

Hawaii is crap and Brennan is an above average systems quarterback playing against very sub-par teams. Hawaii's toughest opponents are considered roadbumps for top flight teams and Hawaii should be nowhere in the BCS discussion. It might be one thing if they were blowing out every single opponent but they have not come close to doing that.

I'm not sure what you mean by BCS matchups, but some matchups I would love to see based simply on how the teams stack against each other would be Oregon-LSU, Boston College-Florida, Ohio State-Missouri, Ohio State-USC, Michigan-Georgia, Arizona St-South Carolina, West Virginia(overrated) vs any SEC team.

[Infuriare]

Is it bad for me to think that SEC is better than most conferences because it's in the South and most of them know that the only way they'll do well in life is to play sports?

I wonder what the average SAT / GPA of a player that ends up in SEC conference vs something like the Big 10. Someone should do such a report.

[Konrad]

The top schools draft the best players, no matter where they are from in the country. Sure, a local school may have a slightly better chance of scoring the local kids, but not much. Also, if you have the talent you are going to play football and make that your life, whether you could do something else or not.

[Timestretch]

USC and Notre Dame routinely steal kids from SEC country.

[Thaelcron]

Is it bad for me to think that SEC is better than most conferences because it's in the South and most of them know that the only way they'll do well in life is to play sports?

I wonder what the average SAT / GPA of a player that ends up in SEC conference vs something like the Big 10. Someone should do such a report.

well it'd probably be easier to compare jailtime. ohio state has only had clarett in a long time. lsu alone has had 2 in the last week lol. not counting all the guys the sec had suspended in the season, offseason, last year, year before etc. fucking jailbirds.

i don't think GPA counts since all the major programs have their retarded players major in gym.

[Thaelcron]

USC and Notre Dame routinely steal kids from SEC country.

seems to be working out well for them this year.

[Soushia]

Oddest thing I ever heard was that Florida wasn't selling out their games for basketball even after all the success. Guess football is king.. I don't know, I think basketball has its moments, but overall I really enjoy the season. Guess it just depends where you're from. Basketball is king in Indiana with the Odens and Conleys and etc, but as far as football goes..they churn out a little % compared to Ohio. OSU hardly has to look outside of their own state if they didn't want to.

UF has been selling out their basketball games since their mid 90's march madness run (elite 8 I believe) led by Andrew Declerq and Marte Quisma. But football has been king since the days of Spurrier as the quarterback.

Every area has their "sport of choice". Growing up in NY and playing high school football I got lucky enough to get scouted and offered a few scholarships...I settled on Boston College because there wasn't a decent program within 300 miles of me. And even then the only "decent" ones were Syracuse and Boston College. Meanwhile...there are about 20 top tier basketball programs and as such, basketball is king up there. There was no reason for powerhouses to even scout on long island because they have their own crop to choose from.

The state of Florida is an absolute factory for top tier football players. Prep high schools like Belle Glade solely exist to funnel players into top tier programs. Once FSU started slipping and Miami stated choking...UF became the clear cut choice for blue chip players. And now you are starting to see the spill over into programs like UCF and USF.

[Timestretch]

seems to be working out well for them this year.

Ya, those are my 2 fav teams..so its been a rough year for me.

[Konrad]

...how in the hell are you a USC and a Notre Dame fan!?!?

[Elad]

What do you do when they play each other Timestretch? I'm only 35 miles from ND.

"UF has been selling out their basketball games since their mid 90's march madness run (elite 8 I believe) led by Andrew Declerq and Marte Quisma. But football has been king since the days of Spurrier as the quarterback."

--I was never knocking UF's basketball in particular, it was just the only example I could think of. They definitely haven't been selling out since the 90s..maybe in the 90s but not in recent years outside of particular games. There were some articles about it, and it's one of the reasons Donovan was being said to be listening to Kentucky (because thats all they have in Lexington, and even with success Florida wasn't filling all the seats)

[Konrad]

Timestretch...let us review the rules of College Football Fandom (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=rules/070905):

1. As a fan, you have to pick a school, one school, same as if you were filling out applications to, you know, go to school there. You may not be a fan of a conference, teams from a specific state, "West Coast football" or college football in general. Nobody is a fan of college football in general, not even Lee Corso.

1a. Under extenuating circumstances, however, you may have up to three Division I-A rooting allegiances, so long as the schools meet the following criteria:

(e) You're a bandwagon-jumping, low-self-esteem weenie and scurry from Notre Dame to Miami to Ohio State to USC to Boise State depending on the year, the polls and the amount of water flooding into the ship.

2. Your schools of allegiance must be in different conferences. Unless the conference in question is the ACC, in which case you may root for Duke and anyone else, since the Blue Devils might as well play in another conference – like, say, the Patriot League.

3. If your schools of allegiance ever play each other, you must pick one to root for, before the game, and put your preference in writing, ALL CAPS, preferably in blood. No sitting on the fence, no qualified endorsements, no switching sides at halftime, and especially none of this:

66. Just because you are Catholic does not mean you should root for Notre Dame. God hates it when wars are carried out in his name, how do you think he feels about having bowl losses carried out in his name?

and finally

4b. Notre Dame? How very original.

[Elad]

But..his family is Irish...or he loved Rudy..or he's watched them on tv since a wee little boy!

[Soushia]

--I was never knocking UF's basketball in particular, it was just the only example I could think of. They definitely haven't been selling out since the 90s..maybe in the 90s but not in recent years outside of particular games. There were some articles about it, and it's one of the reasons Donovan was being said to be listening to Kentucky (because thats all they have in Lexington, and even with success Florida wasn't filling all the seats)

No...it is a good example. While there are a few SEC teams that have had occasional spurts of success in Basketball (Florida, Tennesee, LSU) the true POWERHOUSES have always been Arkansas and Kentucky...which as a result of that tradition and success have always been mediocre in football. It is very tough for a program to break out of the mold that they have been cast in for years.

U of F has one of the best all-around athletic programs in the country because in any given year they can rank in the top 10 in Basketball (mens and womens), Football, Baseball, Diving, Swimming, and Track. Once the juggernaut gets that big it is difficult to get the student body to come out for all of them. I know I lived right across the street from the o-dome (O'Connel center - Basketball) but spent most nights at home drinking and watching the games because there was no alcahol served...even though I had tickets.

[Elad]

One big sport that you just finally mentioned is baseball in the SEC. I know I visited Ole Miss for graduate school, and if I would have decided to go there I would have had a great time. The atmosphere and the stadiums are crazy, they looked like minor league baseball teams. Oregon State won though..but it's real hard for northern teams to compete in baseball, Michigan was the star of the Big Ten but they couldn't compare to all the talent in the south, and being able to practice all the time outdoors. Same goes for golf, unless your school is willing to build a huge indoor facility.

[Timestretch]

It's simple. I loved Notre Dame from the time I was 5 years old until they denied my bid for a scholarship.

Here's what happened...

I sent them a highlight film that I put together of all my big catches, hits, stolen bases, etc...from my Junior/Senior year. The coach was very interested and flew me out on a recruiting trip a few months later. I stayed with guys from the team and had an amazing weekend. By the way, this was the weekend BC beat ND in what was one of the biggest upsets in college football history in 1993.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/best_game/06/11/layden.best/index.html

http://www.legendsofsouthbend.com/interviews/jeff-burris/1993-bc-game

I will never forget the feeling I had after that game. Imagine a stadium full of 70-80 thousand people, all witnessing what they felt was one of the worst moments of their lives. We were absolutely SHELL SHOCKED. 75thousand people all crying at the same time is hard to forget.

Anyway, I returned home excited about playing for my favorite school in the world. Long story short, my app was accepted, but after 3 attempts at financial aid/scholarship, the coach apologized and said he had no money for me. There went that dream =/ The 30k a year tuition was more money than my mom made in an entire year.

As much as it broke my heart, I will always have a soft spot for that golden helmet. So, as amazing as it sounds, I might be the only person in the world that likes both USC and Notre Dame.

[Timestretch]

Oh, quick side note. Rudy was still in the theater when I made the trip. I watched it the night before my flight out to South Bend. I am not ashamed to tell you guys that to date, that's the only movie i've ever cried at.

[Thaelcron]

SEC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *


hands down. I am a michigan fan so i go for the big-10... but NO other conference comes close.

The SEC puts out the most NFL Talent Bar none.


that and the 97-2001 Miami Hurricanes, lol

well if you wanna get technical ohio state puts more players into the NFL than any other school period. 66 players in the last couple years.

[Thaelcron]

At least my wrist stays firm while hitting, mr. limp wrist :crushT:

It's a self fulfilling cycle. If you play good times, you'll get better yourself. If any of the better ranked teams went into the SEC conference, I'd guarantee that within a year or two they'd be top contenders in that conference as well.

Personally, I still think college football should have a "march madness" to put all this bullshit aside. More good teams would play more good teams and you'd get to see some wicked battles.

make teams ranked #1-8 playoff, while all the other bowls are going on.

[Aradorn]

my hometown alone has put 3 players in the MLB (Tim, JD, and Stephen Drew...)

and there are some powerhouse basketball programs in the south (North Carolina? Duke? Georgia Tech?). But yes, football is king.

[Konrad]

make teams ranked #1-8 playoff, while all the other bowls are going on.

There would be just as much bitching and complaining about who gets in or left out of the playoffs as there is now.

[Aradorn]

right because you still need a system that ranks teams.

[Timestretch]

I vote you play out the season...then let the guys at Vegas decide who the best 8 are.

[Thaelcron]

Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day.

He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"

God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael, look what I've made."

Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"

"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to call it Earth, and it's going to be a great place of balance."

"Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused.

God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor. The Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black people."

God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and covered in ice."

The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a small, lovely land mass and asked, "What's that one?"

"Ohio," God replied, "the most glorious place on Earth. There's beautiful lakes, rivers, streams and exquisite grasslands. The people from Ohio are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous, and they're going to be found traveling the world. They'll be extremely sociable, hardworking and high achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace. They will be admired by all who come in contact with them."

Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed, "What about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!"

God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the loudmouth, whiny-ass , arrogant piss ants I've put next to them in Michigan!"

[Thaelcron]

Q. How many Wolverines does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A. One, but he gets 5 credits for it.



Q. Why do women from Michigan wear high heels?

A. To keep their knuckles from dragging on the ground.



Q. Why doesn't Ohio slide off into the Ohio River?

A. Because Michigan SUCKS.



Q. What do you tell the U of M cheerleader to pick her up after she smiles at you?

A. Nice tooth, babe.



Q. How do you keep your family safe from a Wolverine?

A. Move to Pasadena.



Q. Did you hear the University of Michigan is going to bring back artificial

turf in their football stadium?

A. They're tired of the cheerleaders eating all the grass.



Q. Why did they change the playing field at "The Big House" to cardboard?

A. Because Michigan has always looked better on paper.



Q. How do you make Wolverine cookies?

A. Put them in a big bowl and beat them for three hours.



Q. What do you say to a Michigan Wolverine in a three piece suit?

A. Will the defendant please rise.



Q. What do you call a football player in Michigan who has talent?

A. An Ohio product



Q. What's the difference between the Michigan football team and Frosted Flakes?

A. Frosted Flakes know what to do in a bowl



Q. Why do University of Michigan graduates keep their diplomas on their dashboard?

A. So that they can park in handicapped spaces.



Q. How do you get a Michigan graduate to stop knocking on your door and get off your porch?

A. Pay for the pizza.



Q. What do you have when you get 32 Michigan fans together?

A. A full set of teeth.

[Thaelcron]

Four college alumni were climbing a mountain one day: an Ohio State grad, a Michigan grad, a Penn State grad, and a Notre Dame grad. Each proclaimed to be the most loyal of all fans at their alma mater. As they climbed higher, they argued as to which one of them was the most loyal of all. They continued to argue all the way up the mountain, and finally as they reached the top, the Notre Dame grad hurled himself off the mountain, shouting "This is for the Fighting Irish!" as he fell to his doom. Not wanting to be out done, the Penn State grad threw himself off the mountain proclaiming, "This is for the Nittany Lions!" Seeing this the OSU grad walked over and shouted "This is for the Buckeyes!" and pushed the Wolverine off the side of the mountain.

[Elad]

This will be an exciting weekend. I'm missing the UCONN/WV game because I have to be at the girlfriend's parent's place..Ark/LSU tonight and MO/KS tomm with some other scattered games..

Let's gooooooooo,
m o u n t a i n e e r s

[Thaelcron]

50-48 LSU LOSES!!!!!

[Thaelcron]

Go UConn, Pitt or Oklahoma and Ohio State is in the Title Game.

[Elad]

I hope Oklahoma does win. I'm more worried about Chase Daniel and Missouri than I am about Ohio State. I went to Purdue, and Ohio State can get exposed.

[Silver]

We are MARSHALL.

[Aradorn]

Lookie lookie, georgia is ranked #4 and at worst gets an orange bowl =)

[Silver]

I will always hate Georgia because of a Judge that I have appeared before in Atlanta.

Total fucking asshole...

Went to Georgia and calls it the Harvard of the South.

Asshole.

[Konrad]

Went to Georgia and calls it the Harvard of the South.

Haha...that is quite possibly the most absurd thing I have ever heard!

[Saleen]

W00T W00T W00T@@@@@!!!!


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3136391


:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[Saleen]

wait... nm was saying miles would be going to michigan



FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK @*$!@#*()$&#!@^&*#!@(*#

[Elad]

Well, it's all screwed up now.

[Konrad]

This year in college football proves that...there should NOT be a playoff! Way too fucking fun.

[Shokar]

So, who moves into the top 2 spots?

[Thaelcron]

Ohio State vs Georgia more than likely

[Vaildez]

well they got it right imo... OSU and LSU are prolly the 2 best teams.

[Elad]

zzzzz...Purdue got about the worst scenario ever, terrible bowl game in Detroit against a MAC team we already beat this year (Central Michigan), who is going to be jacked for the game. Wheeee!

Still debating going to the Fiesta Bowl, somehow.

[Aradorn]

georgia got shitted again... would have been really awesome to play USC in the Rose bowl or VT at the orange bowl but instead we get to play the team with absolutely no schedule...

oh well LSU will beat the living shit out of OSU and Florida will kill Michigan, Arkansas will beat Mizzou, and VT will beat KU and Georgia will beat Hawaii... Thus proven that the south (SEC and ACC) play better ball than any other conference in the nation...

[Konrad]

I actually think Ohio State has a chance against LSU. They would have had a tougher time with West Virginia or Missouri.

[Timestretch]

I actually think Ohio State has a chance against LSU. They would have had a tougher time with West Virginia or Missouri.

I think this game will be decided by the end of the 1st quarter. LSU 21 Ohio State 3

[Konrad]

Ohio State has struggled against spread offenses. They have dominated traditional offenses. I hate them, but I would not sleep on them.

[Virt]

LSU has vastly better talent than Ohio, but LSU has kinda forgotten how to blow people out of the water. LSU by 7.

btw... wtf is up with this season!?!?

[Silver]

Michigan State Spartans

[Konrad]

Vastly superior talent? That's a bit of an overstatement.

[Thaelcron]

LSU has vastly better talent than Ohio, but LSU has kinda forgotten how to blow people out of the water. LSU by 7.

btw... wtf is up with this season!?!?


did you watch this season? LSU has been giving up 30+ points a game to terrible teams. Kentuckty(7-5), Arkansas(7-5) and South Carolina(6-6) aren't that good. They beat Florida, Auburn and Alabama(lawl junior college loss) by pure luck. the rest of the teams they played were worse than MAC teams. LSU was VERY LUCKY they played Tennessee instead of Georgia in the SEC title game. LSU has been overrated all season, has any other team in history been given 3 chances at #1 in one season?

Chris Wells is better than any back they've faced. Wells might not be as fast as McFadden, but he's bigger and stronger and can move piles. if dorsey is still hurting look for Wells to run all over the place. i don't think dorsey will be 100% because of what's hurt(hamstring/knee), in order to heal he'll have to sit out of practice for a few weeks and if he does that he'll be out of shape.

Because Ohio State should be able to run the ball, they should be able to control the clock and it'll be a close game. I think it'll all depend on who makes more mistakes. whoever has the least turnovers should win.

[Vaildez]

Im pretty excited about Illinois and USC... I think thats going to be a great game.

[Konrad]

Im pretty excited about Illinois and USC... I think thats going to be a great game.

:insane:

[Timestretch]

http://www.thesaltymaid.com/tspforums/showpost.php?p=114924&postcount=25

[Virt]

did you watch this season? LSU has been giving up 30+ points a game to terrible teams. Kentuckty(7-5), Arkansas(7-5) and South Carolina(6-6) aren't that good. They beat Florida, Auburn and Alabama(lawl junior college loss) by pure luck. the rest of the teams they played were worse than MAC teams. LSU was VERY LUCKY they played Tennessee instead of Georgia in the SEC title game. LSU has been overrated all season, has any other team in history been given 3 chances at #1 in one season?

Chris Wells is better than any back they've faced. Wells might not be as fast as McFadden, but he's bigger and stronger and can move piles. if dorsey is still hurting look for Wells to run all over the place. i don't think dorsey will be 100% because of what's hurt(hamstring/knee), in order to heal he'll have to sit out of practice for a few weeks and if he does that he'll be out of shape.

Because Ohio State should be able to run the ball, they should be able to control the clock and it'll be a close game. I think it'll all depend on who makes more mistakes. whoever has the least turnovers should win.LSU had a weak schedule? Wells is better than McFaden?

Ok, maybe I was exaggerating when I said that LSU has "vastly" superior talent to OSU, but you sir have been hitting up the crack pipe. :)

[Virt]

:insane:QFT... The only reason Illinois is in a BCS game is because of the antiquated notion that the Rose Bowl should be Pac 10 vs. Big 10(+1). That and the nonsensical rule stating that no more than 2 teams per conference may attend BCS bowl games.

[Elad]

LSU does not have vastly better talent than OSU, at all. LSU may be producing more, or don't have that ''OSU is slow'' stereotype, but the last couple years they've been very similar.

The ACC has only won one BCS bowl game...but I'll give ya the fact the SEC is good, but they beat up each other. They'll probably do well in the bowls, but we'll see.

[Thaelcron]

LSU had a weak schedule? Wells is better than McFaden?

Ok, maybe I was exaggerating when I said that LSU has "vastly" superior talent to OSU, but you sir have been hitting up the crack pipe. :)

i'd say LSU had an overrated schedule. a couple of those ranked teams they like to boast about beating are/barely above .500. everyone keeps giving OSU shit about having a weak non conference schedule, but Middle Tenn, Louisiana Tech, UL_Monroe, Florida International, and Florida Atlantic are hardly national powers.

there was an article on espn.com about Kent State being Ohio State's 6th game and gave them shit for it, but LSU and all SEC teams played High School teams in week 11, plus they get bye weeks.

As far as Wells>McFadden, Wells has 1500 yards rushing in really only playing 9/10 games. he's also faster than anyone would expect from a guy that's 6"5" 240 pounds. only guys bigger than him on LSU's defense are the two DT's. good luck tackling him. giving up 260 yards rushing per game is not something you want to have facing 5 300 pound linemen and a 240 pound running back. like i said if OSU can run the ball, they'll control the game.

This year Ohio State won't be coming into the game a 20+ point favorite or whatever the hell it was last year. so i don't expect them to be overconfident like last year.

[Aradorn]

all SEC teams played High School teams in week 11, plus they get bye weeks.

yet we still play 13 game to other people playing 12.

[Virt]

i'd say LSU had an overrated schedule. a couple of those ranked teams they like to boast about beating are/barely above .500. everyone keeps giving OSU shit about having a weak non conference schedule, but Middle Tenn, Louisiana Tech, UL_Monroe, Florida International, and Florida Atlantic are hardly national powers.True... but they are better than Youngstown State, Akron and Kent State... plus LSU didn't play those 5 teams, like you insinuate. They played Middle Tenn, Louisiana Tech, Tulane and Virginia Tech as their non-conference schedule. When comparing the two's non-conference schedules (the three I mentioned above plus Washington - last place in the Pac 10) LSU's is by far the tougher.

[Konrad]

Also, Indiana and Minnesota are patsy games compared to Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Miss St.

[Soulein]

Brewins fan here....very disappointed...probably shouldn't be though lol.

[Soulein]

P.S. At least Navy beat Army! GO NAVY!

[Timestretch]

OSU beat 0 teams that ended up in the top 20. Think about that.

[Konrad]

They beat Wisconsin, which is #18.

[Timestretch]

They beat Wisconsin, which is #18.
What poll?

[Konrad]

BCS, AP, and Coaches. #15 in Coaches.

[Timestretch]

BCS, AP, and Coaches. #15 in Coaches.

Damn you...I need to fire my research department.

Oh well, they beat 1 team in the top 20. Still, woefully un-impressive for a team in the title game.

[Aradorn]

uga vs lsu for title game =)

[Thaelcron]

Damn you...I need to fire my research department.

Oh well, they beat 1 team in the top 20. Still, woefully un-impressive for a team in the title game.

well, when you look at everyones record and everyone else in the top 10 lost to unranked teams with .500 or losing records.......well outside of Hawaii anyway.

[Konrad]

well, when you look at everyones record and everyone else in the top 10 lost to unranked teams with .500 or losing records.......well outside of Hawaii anyway.

Florida didn't.

[Cydus]

florida is strongest in sec this year imo

I'm really annoyed they lost to LSU, i wanted a rematch of osu and florida this year with reverse results.

[Konrad]

i wanted a rematch of osu and florida this year with reverse results.

Kids and their crazy dreams.

[Aradorn]

florida is strongest in sec this year imo

I'm really annoyed they lost to LSU, i wanted a rematch of osu and florida this year with reverse results.

yet they lost to LSU and UGA

[Lozzt One]

i hate the fact that virginia tech is 3rd and Ohio is 1st (ohio doent have a full conference of competition only about 4 or 5 teams are really competitive)

[Konrad]

i hate the fact that virginia tech is 3rd and Ohio is 1st (ohio doent have a full conference of competition only about 4 or 5 teams are really competitive)

...you're talking about the ACC right?

[Lozzt One]

BCS standings have tech 3rd and ohio state 1st...

and the big 10 only has 4 to 5 relly competitive teams...

just to clarify my previous post

[Konrad]

I wouldn't call Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Maryland, and Miami (this year) as all that competitive either.

[Elad]

Dear ACC,

This isn't basketball. Try winning a BCS bowl game. You have as many as Boise St (1)