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Diraker
01-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Disclaimer: this thread involves religion, politics, and beliefs.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070103/24761.htm

Some Americans Expect Jesus' Second Coming in 2007

One in four Americans anticipates the second coming of Christ in 2007. This is one several predictions made by Americans in a recent poll for the new year.

A poll by Ipsos, an international polling firm, found that 11 percent of respondents said it is "very likely" that Jesus will return to Earth this year and 14 percent said it was "somewhat likely."

Among white evangelical Christians, 46 percent said it's at least somewhat likely that Jesus will return in 2007 compared to 17 percent of Catholics and 10 percent of those with no religion.

Overall, 25 percent said it was "not too likely" that Jesus will make his second coming this year and 42 percent said it was "not at all likely."

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The article mentions some other stuff too like 1/3 said they think a cure for cancer would have been developed in 2007.

When I get called for a poll it's usually some BS scam...once my wife took the poll and now we get radio station flier crap in the mail. I never get called for a good poll like this one. :thud:

Anyway I wonder if people answer truthfully on these polls or they just answer what they think they should (or maybe what they hope). I remember being in grade school and taking a survey where some of the questions were about religion. I knew how 'the church' would have wanted me to answer so to answer what I really believed was like a test of faith. What I'm suggesting is that people often times profess belief rather than truly believing it deep down inside. I used to. What do you think about these polls? Indicators or what people really believe, what people profess to believe, something else? Trick questions? Bad pollsters?

Dong
01-04-2008, 07:17 PM
These studies don't mean much without a response rate, i.e. of the 1,000 people surveyed, how many total were called and didn't participate.

Caller ID has spoiled me. I rarely answer the phone for a number I don't recognize, and I suspect many people screen their calls like I do.

Mutt
01-04-2008, 07:23 PM
Dont need disclaimers on the poop deck, its a ffa

Mourne
01-04-2008, 07:41 PM
I bet if you ran the poll again you'd get the same results for 08 lololol.

Yeah, caller I.D. has me doing the same thing.

Diraker
01-04-2008, 07:52 PM
Yeah that's a good point Dong, I hadn't considered that. It does make me wonder of the 1,000 polled how many attempts it took to get that 1,000. Anyway there was no link to the actual poll and lots of those polling sites require that you be a member (paid member) to view stuff but do you think that people really believe Jesus was coming in 2007? Do people really believe a cure for cancer was coming in 2007? I guess at some point you can get 10% of folk to say anything. You could ask if the earth is spherical and 10% would say "highly unlikely". (related: I forget the actual numbers and the source but something like 50% of americans didn't agree with the statement, "the earth travels around the sun and it takes one year to do so".) It makes me wonder who they are asking.

And I recently got my phone hooked up to my cable and now I have caller ID too. Freakin' scammers and telemarketers can go screw off now. Ever get the calls from the state trooper people, asking for you to buy a shield sticker? They kept calling me and I "pledged" the $25 sticker and when it came it looked like a scam to me. Anyway I never paid and I haven't heard from them since.

eta: Mourne, I think you are right...even if they asked the same people.

Mourne
01-04-2008, 07:56 PM
imo there's already been a cure for cancer. But I'm usually considered as one of those "foil-hat" "conspiracy nuts". :insane: People who get money for treatments and medications would be bankrupted by cures. Or maybe it's tied in with a eugenics plot by the Bilderbergs to trim the world's overpopulation!

Mutt
01-04-2008, 08:01 PM
imo there's already been a cure for cancer. But I'm usually considered as one of those "foil-hat" "conspiracy nuts". :insane: People who get money for treatments and medications would be bankrupted by cures. Or maybe it's tied in with a eugenics plot by the Bilderbergs to trim the world's overpopulation!there are already various "cures" and treatments for certain cancers. However there is a large range of cancers and the major ones like colon and breast cancer are still running amok. I find it hard to believe that if there was a researcher who had a cancer cure that he is keeping it bottled up is frankly retarded.

Firstly very few people nowadays go very far in life without knowing someone who has a bout with cancer, many of us have it within our own families somewhere.

Secondly, the money to be made on such a cure would mitigate any lost due to ongoing treatments, etc. How much money do you think the inventer of viagra made? And that was just to get a pecker to rise. How much will people spend to get their life back? I can tell you that in most cases if it costs upwards of 100k most people will still find a way to buy it.

Mourne
01-04-2008, 08:07 PM
True in some regards. Though with the Viagra analogy, Viagra isn't a cure for anything. A cure would be if you took 1 pill of Viagra and now you don't have any more problems getting your pecker to rise. You have to continuously take Viagra, right? Each time you want the effects? I actually don't know anything about it...lol I guess that's a good thing though. :smile_ok:

There's much more money to be made with treatments and medications than cures. If there were a permanent cure for, say heartburn, then you'd take a "pill" or whatever it was and never have it again. Things like mylanta, tums, pepto, prevacid and hundreds or thousands more would be bankrupted. Instead, people buy all those hundreds of medicines to merely control the symptoms, without stopping the condition. This is just the first example I could think of.

Diraker
01-04-2008, 08:13 PM
I think we live in a pill popping society but I don't think there's some conspiracy to hide some sort of cure for cancer. I also think that there is more money to be made in keeping people sick than there is to be made by curing them.

Drekor
01-05-2008, 01:46 AM
Second coming of Jesus and cure for cancer? ...That is some serious optimism I suppose.

Gnioss
01-05-2008, 04:29 AM
The cure cancer part is optimistic, but possible.



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